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Answers to your questions - How safe is RaboPlus?

Added on 10/10/2008 16:40

Thanks for all your questions and comments submitted on the last couple of blog posts about the safety of RaboPlus.  It's reassuring to see our customers are doing their research in these uncertain times!  Instead of responding to each individual comment, I thought I'd address a lot of the common issues and questions in a new post.

Not surprisingly given the volatility we are witnessing on global stock markets we have had some questions from customers concerned about the guarantee of deposits held with RaboPlus, the importance of an AAA credit rating, and Rabobank's exposure to derivatives. Please read on for our response to these questions - and apologies in advance if it's a bit heavy going, but I think the topic warrants an in-depth response.

Rabobank Australia Limited, the issuer of RaboPlus deposits and products, is an ADI ("authorised deposit-taking institution") which is prudentially regulated by the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority. It is subject to the Banking Act and, as a result, its depositors’ claims would rank ahead of all other liabilities of Rabobank Australia Limited. Read the section of the APRA website which deals with the subject of depositor protection.

Please refer especially to the third paragraph, which in part states that: "Under the depositor protection provisions of the Banking Act 1959, depositors in Australia have first claim to the assets of an ADI in Australia should an ADI be unable to meet its obligations or should it suspend payment. To support depositors’ interests, ADI’s which take retail deposits in Australia are required to hold assets in Australia at least equal to their deposit liabilities in Australia”.

While we note a lot of your comments regarding financial ratings, it is a significant point that the liabilities of Rabobank Australia Limited are guaranteed by the bank's ultimate Dutch parent, AAA rated Cooperatieve Centrale Raiffeisen-Boerenleenbank B.A (known as Rabobank or Rabobank Nederland). In fact Rabobank has maintained an AAA rating consistently for the last 27 years from both Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s.  

We take great comfort from the fact that Rabobank is a cooperative bank which allows us to take a longer term view in the markets we operate in. As we are not listed on stock exchanges we do not have to worry about share price fluctuations that many global banks have suffered. I hope you find this reassuring.

In the Investor Relations section of Rabobank's international website, you will find key documents on the international group's strong financial credentials and recently-released half-yearly results - these show that the bank has a Tier 1 capital ratio of 11.2% which provides strong support for its AAA rating. In fact our Tier 1 capital ratio places us among the world's fifteen largest financial institutions.

Many of our customers have made it clear to us that they would prefer to have their deposits with an ADI which is also supported by an ultimate parent guarantee from an AAA rated entity, rather than with an ADI which either has no parent guarantee or has a parent guarantee from an entity with an inferior credit rating. We sense that this is even more important to the vast majority of our customers than it was even a few weeks ago and we are very pleased to be in that position.

Whilst the Rabobank Group does have derivative risks exposure, the bank has other risk management strategies in place to mitigate against this. For those of you looking for a full understanding of the Group's current financial status, you can download the 2008 Interim Results and other key financial documents on the Rabobank.com website.

Or for a summary of the key points of the Group's 2008 Interim Results, read the media release.

Finally, you may also be interested to know that Rabobank has retained its ranking as the World’s Safest Privately-Owned Bank in the latest annual Global Finance magazine's ranking of the World's Safest Banks, which was published in September. Read more about it here.

I hope this addresses your concerns about these really important issues and reassures you that RaboPlus is a safe place for your money, especially in tough times like these.

 

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1. timQuote | 12/10/2008 06:57


Really encouraging when you can't download the "2008 Interim results and othe key Financial Documents" because of "http error 502: Bad Gateway." What don't you want us to see?


2. Althea HardingQuote | 12/10/2008 08:39


Is the money that I have deposited in my RaboPlus Master Savings Account covered by the Prime Minister's announcement on 12 October 2008 that the Australian Government would guarantee all deposits in Australian banks, building societies, credit unions and Australian subsidiaries of foreign-owned banks?


3. Jan McNeil (Geelong)Quote | 13/10/2008 05:43


I am assumimg that the Aust Gov't guarantee applies to you as well. Why don't you include this statement on your web site? I (along with many others) feel happier now our gov't has done this. Other banks are including this statement on their websites.


4. Jan McNeil (Geelong)Quote | 13/10/2008 05:49


The APRA third par is now incorrect as of yesterday (12/10)


5. jeff Butler (Darwin NT )Quote | 13/10/2008 06:10


Does Rabo intend to apply to the government for a guarentee of wholsale and funding deposits, as per Treasuary statement 13 Oct.
If Rabo does so how and when will this affect my funds at call in Rabo?


6. Greg McAweeney (Sydney)Quote | 14/10/2008 09:57
tim wrote:


Really encouraging when you can't download the "2008 Interim results and othe key Financial Documents" because of "http error 502: Bad Gateway." What don't you want us to see?



Tim,
I just checked this and it seems to be working fine. Try this direct link to the Rabobank Group Interim Report 2008:
http://www.interimreport2008rabobank.com/


7. Greg McAweeney (Sydney)Quote | 14/10/2008 10:15
Althea Harding wrote:


Is the money that I have deposited in my RaboPlus Master Savings Account covered by the Prime Minister's announcement on 12 October 2008 that the Australian Government would guarantee all deposits in Australian banks, building societies, credit unions and Australian subsidiaries of foreign-owned banks?



Althea, Yes, deposits made with RaboPlus will be covered by the guarantee, provided that the type of deposit is specified as being within the terms of the guarantee, as set out in the announcement by the Australian Federal Government Treasury. For more information, read the Federal Government deposit guarantee FAQs.


8. Paul (Geelong)Quote | 15/10/2008 12:30


My concern is related to your parent company Raboplus International. If this company gets into trouble would the Netherland Government support it and how will this effect Rabobank Australia. Thanks.


9. JamesQuote | 15/10/2008 07:38


Hi Greg, thanks for posting all the info and maintaining the executive blog. RaboPlus seems to have quite a high emphasis on both safety and security. It's great that people can post their questions/doubts and get a direct response openly (same as with Brian).


10. John (Sydney)Quote | 21/10/2008 08:47


Hi Greg

My wife and I have sizeable deposits in our separate names with RaboPlus.

For the record, can you kindly confirm that these deposits are held in our own names directly with Rabobank Australia Limited and not on a "pooled" basis with other depositors via some vehicle used by the bank (eg a trust)?

Also, my wife and I have our respective super invested under a "wrap" account arrangement managed by another financial institution.

Does Rabobank Australia Limited offer a "wrap" account arrangement or is this the same thing as the IDPS arrangement for managed funds covered under the RaboPlus terms and conditions?

If Rabobank Australia Limited does have such a "wrap" account (or the IDPS is the same thing), can we place our cash holdings (a few hundred thousand dollars in total between us) on deposit in at call savings accounts in our own names with RaboPlus (this links to my first question earlier) and will they be treated as retail deposits for APRA purposes and be covered by the Government's 3 year guarantee?

Many thanks for your assistance.

John


11. Greg McAweeney (Sydney)Quote | 24/10/2008 09:40
Paul (Geelong) wrote:


My concern is related to your parent company Raboplus International. If this company gets into trouble would the Netherland Government support it and how will this effect Rabobank Australia. Thanks.



Hi Paul,

Thanks for your comment. I presume when you say RaboPlus International you are referring to our Dutch parent, Rabobank Netherlands. As you're aware the Dutch government has made provisions in their budget to support Dutch banks, and have recently supported ING with 10B Euro to strengthen its capital position. Even though Rabobank is included in the list of Banks that are able to take advantage of the Dutch government's financial aid plan, it has decided that it does not need to as Rabobank's solid performance means that it's profit and equity are sufficient to ride through the crisis. The reason why Rabobank is performing so well is because of its spread of activities, low risk profile, and strong foot hold in the Dutch market.

Here in Australia, RaboPlus is a division of Rabobank Australia Limited which holds an Australian banking licence, which means that the Federal Government deposit guarantee applies to deposits made with either RaboPlus or Rabobank Australia Limited in accordance with the announcement made by the Australian Federal Government Treasury on 13 October 2008.


12. Greg McAweeney (Sydney)Quote | 29/10/2008 09:07
John (Sydney) wrote:


Hi Greg

My wife and I have sizeable deposits in our separate names with RaboPlus.

For the record, can you kindly confirm that these deposits are held in our own names directly with Rabobank Australia Limited and not on a "pooled" basis with other depositors via some vehicle used by the bank (eg a trust)?

Also, my wife and I have our respective super invested under a "wrap" account arrangement managed by another financial institution.

Does Rabobank Australia Limited offer a "wrap" account arrangement or is this the same thing as the IDPS arrangement for managed funds covered under the RaboPlus terms and conditions?

If Rabobank Australia Limited does have such a "wrap" account (or the IDPS is the same thing), can we place our cash holdings (a few hundred thousand dollars in total between us) on deposit in at call savings accounts in our own names with RaboPlus (this links to my first question earlier) and will they be treated as retail deposits for APRA purposes and be covered by the Government's 3 year guarantee?

Many thanks for your assistance.

John



Hi John,


Thanks for your questions. Any deposit you and your wife hold with RaboPlus, a division of Rabobank Australia Limited (Rabobank Australia), is actually held with Rabobank Australia.


Rabobank Australia is an authorised deposit taking institution (ADI) and is prudentially regulated by the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority (APRA). As a result of the Federal Treasury’s announcement on 13 October 2008, RaboPlus at call savings accounts and term deposits are the types of accounts that are covered for a period of 3 years from 12 October 2008.


On 24 October 2008, the Treasurer announced further design and operational parameters for the Government’s deposit guarantee. The Government has decided that a threshold of $1 million be implemented. For deposits over this amount, institutions will be charged a fee to receive the benefits of the deposit guarantee. The changes to the guarantee scheme start on 28 November 2008.


The guarantee applies to deposits by all entities – individuals, partnerships, businesses, and trusts.


RaboPlus does offer a ‘wrap’, we simply refer to it as an “IDPS” as an abbreviation for Investor Directed Portfolio Service. If you are looking to transfer any managed funds holdings over to our IDPS we currently don’t provide this functionality, but are looking into it. At present, you need to sell any units you currently hold and either re-purchase them through the RaboPlus platform or place them on deposit with RaboPlus.


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